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By:  Michael D. McClellan | French painter Henri Matisse famously said that you study, you learn, but you guard the original naiveté – that it has to be within you, as desire for drink is within the drunkard or love is within the lover.  Melissa Manchester, the Oscar-nominated, Grammy Award-winning artist behind such classics as Don’t Cry Out Loud and Midnight Blue, doesn’t so much subscribe to this philosophy as breathe it in and refuse to exhale, her unbridled passion for music stronger now than it was forty years ago, when she was backing up Bette Midler as a founding member of the Harlettes.  At an age when many of her contemporaries suffer from creative rigor mortis, Manchester is liberated – an artist uncoupled from convention and unafraid to take risks, a musical tour de force driven by an unwavering commitment to her craft.  The result?  You Gotta Love the Life, an audacious, 14-track outpouring of life and lessons learned.

 

“The album is my testimony of what I know to be true, and not anyone else’s version of what a good idea would be – my own hard-won sense of who I am, what I’ve been through and what I’ve learned.” – Melissa Manchester

 

For Manchester, this album – her first in ten years – represents a creative fork in the road, a decision point on whether to stay the course or try something new, to settle or to innovate, to capitalize on a proven formula or to follow her internal compass and create something utterly unlike anything she’s done before.  Thankfully for us, she chooses the latter.  The finished product is, in a word, intoxicating.  One moment we’re reintroduced to the blues.  The next, samba.  The next, daring duets.  Then soulful, soaring ballads.  Without question, You Gotta Love the Life has its mojo working from the album’s title track to its a capella conclusion, its understated star turns – including songs with Stevie Wonder, Al Jarreau and Dionne Warwick – expertly done.

“This is an adventure I wouldn’t have wanted to miss,” she says.  “You do have to pinch yourself when you’re working with your musical heroes and heroines.”

Heroes like legendary bluesman Keb’ Mo’.  A three-time Grammy Award-winner whose songs have been recorded by everyone from B.B. King to the Dixie Chicks, Keb’ Mo’s fingerprints are all over Feelin’ For You, and his guitar is at its bluesy best.

 

Keb Mo performs at Eric Clapton's Crossroads Guitar Festival 2013 at Madison Square Garden on Saturday, April 13, 2013 in New York.

Keb Mo performs at Eric Clapton’s Crossroads Guitar Festival 2013 at Madison Square Garden on Saturday, April 13, 2013 in New York.

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“Keb’ and I are old friends,” Manchester says.  “I wrote this song with a young lady named Sara Niemietz, and then I sent it to Keb’.  He agreed to co-produce it, which was wonderful, but when we went into the studio we were both tiptoeing around the fact that the song was very simple.  At dinner I said, ‘I think I need to tell you the story behind the song.’  That’s when I told him about the night a drunk approached me in a Mississippi Delta juke joint – I could instantly tell that he was twelve sheets to the wind [laughs].  He stumbles over and asks me if I’m married, and I reply, ‘Yes, very’.  He looks at me and says, ‘Oh, that’s too bad, ‘cause I got a feelin’ for you.’  At that point I immediately knew how to write that song.

“As soon as I told Keb’ that story everything clicked.  It came alive for him in a way that revealed how interesting the song could be, which is why I called and asked him to produce it.  I knew he would recognize its potential.  He worked with every musician tenderly and individually when we were recording it, which really got the energy flowing.  It was an incredible experience.  He is the dearest soul, and so talented.  I’m so excited that he’s gotten so many Grammy nominations, because he has had a beautiful career.”

Like Matisse, whose career spanned decades and whose genius reputation was built on a restless need to innovate, Manchester has proven herself to be every bit the avant-gardist – as You Gotta Love the Life so clearly illustrates.  One listen and you can appreciate Manchester’s fearlessness, which is equally evident in the stripped down simplicity of Feelin’ For You, and in the decision to pair herself with the incomparable Dionne Warwick on Other End of the Phone.

 

Melissa Manchester

Visionary: Melissa Manchester recruited an all-star lineup for her 20th studio album, ‘You Gotta Love the Life’

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“If I had recorded this song with a man, it would have been lovely and sort of standard fare,” Manchester says of Other End of the Phone.  “But by having Dionne sing opposite me, I got the unexpected quality of two women singing to each other.  It was a decision that transformed the song into such an interesting, dramatic work.  She was more than willing to take that chance.  I really appreciate that quality in her.

 

“I just love the weariness in her voice, because it matches the lyrics and the music so perfectly.  As the listener, I can identify with that weariness.  And I love that somebody I’ve worshipped and admired so deeply was showing up to be a part of my project and grace me with her art.  Dionne Warwick is such a dear person.” – Melissa Manchester

 

Other End of the Phone is noteworthy for another reason:  The song represents the last writing credit for legendary lyricist Hal David, who, along with Burt Bacharach, penned such timeless classics as Raindrops Keep Fallin’ on My Head and I’ll Never Fall in Love Again.  What was it like for Manchester to collaborate with an icon such as Hal David?

“I get chills just thinking about that,” says Manchester.  “I had run into Hal at a party – he was well into his nineties at the time, and I asked him if he would consider writing a song with me.  He agreed immediately, so I visited him at his lovely apartment and asked him about his collaborative process.  Hal said that he didn’t have a specific method, and then he turned it around and asked me the same question.  I explained that I sometimes start from a conversation, or that sometimes I start from an idea that somebody brings into the room.

“Hal shuffled out of the room.  When he returned, he had three sheets of paper with three different ideas, and this one – Other End of the Phone – was the most succinct.  I immediately started to hear the music, and that’s when I took the paper back home and really sort of breathed into the shape of his lyrics.

 

Melissa Manchester

Incomparable: Dionne Warwick, Bob Hope and Melissa Manchester

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“That was an important part of the process for me, because Hal writes in a very spare manner – so much so that I asked if these were the completed lyrics, or if this was something still in development.  He said that he studied journalism in school, and that his writing was very spare and to-the-point.  That was good enough for me [laughs].  So I continued breathing the lyrics in, trying to hear Dionne singing them, and when I finally called her and explained that these were Hal’s last lyrics, it was an easy sell.  I just reminded her that she’d built her career on Hal’s lyrics and that the great Joe Sample would be playing piano.  She said she’d be right over, and that the next thing you know we’re in the studio, recording the song [laughs].”

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Melissa Manchester may have learned her craft from a who’s who of music royalty, counting names like Bette Midler, Barry Manilow and Paul Simon among her mentors, but no less important was a piece of Digital Age advice passed on to her from a most unlikely source – her music students at the University of Southern California.  It was they who encouraged her to take a chance, to step outside of her comfort zone, to do something completely off the Manchester Reservation.

A posthumous duet with Tupac?

A collection of Spanish tunes to tap a new audience?

As enticing as those ideas might be, her students went another route, insisting that Manchester consider a 21st century approach to releasing her first album in ten years, out of which emerged the independently-produced, crowdfunding-backed You Gotta Love the Life.  For Manchester, this marked a radical departure from traditional record-making, no small feat considering that most artists in her age demographic are, to coin a phrase, technology averse.  All of which begs the question:  How did Manchester find herself lecturing to a group of college students in the first place?

“This whole teaching experience, I didn’t see it coming,” Manchester says.  “I was originally invited as a guest speaker, but then they invited me back to teach a class, and then they just kept inviting me back [laughs].

 

“The thing is, I learn so much from my students – maybe more than I teach.  Time becomes fluid for me, because I can see that they are at the beginning of their adventure, and I remember the beginning of my own adventure.  So I’m coming to them from the very long shadow of a very long career.” – Melissa Manchester

 

The thought of You Gotta Love the Life being concocted in a USC lecture hall, with money raised from an Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign, seems at odds with a sixty-something singer whose first hit came way back in 1975.  But spend any time at all with the energetic Manchester and you quickly appreciate her propensity for pushing the envelope, especially at a point in her career when few would fault her for resting on her laurels.  Others of her stature might tune out their students.  Manchester?  Are you kidding me?

“They would come into my studio every couple of months with a new EP,” Manchester says, “and it would look so professionally done.  It would be shrink-wrapped, and have lovely photographs and credits, and it would contain five beautifully produced songs.  Well, I had been thinking about making another record, so I asked them how they created their CDs.  I expected them to say that they worked with various independent labels, but that wasn’t the case.  They said that they were doing it through crowdfunding, and suggested that I should do the same thing.  I said, ‘Great!’, and immediately followed that with, ‘Wait – what is that?’  So my students taught me about crowdfunding, and they taught [my manager] Sue Holder about it, and that’s how we got started.

“One of my students became my project manager, and several others stepped up to become part of the creative team.  They worked with me note-by-note, and step-by-step, and showed me how to do this.  It was amazing.  Everything about this adventure of making this record became part of a breathing entity, including the fans who contributed funds toward the making of this album.  It allowed them to lean into the process and have a sweet, proprietary interest in the process – I never knew that anyone outside of myself was interested in the process of what was being created.  Some of them who donated enough actually spent a day in the studio with us, and it was incredible.  To have the fans and the students show up made it more alive, and it helped me experience how crowdfunding can turn something like this into a living, breathing adventure.”

Would she do it again?

“Absolutely,” she says, smiling.  “This is such a new way of thinking for me.  For my students, it’s their version of normal.  It was so fascinating on so many levels.  It’s exhausting.  It’s exhilarating.  It’s a new paradigm, and underscores the fact that we’re in an industrial revolution where the wheel is being reinvented, and doesn’t necessarily end up being round.”

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That so many A-List singers and musicians would eagerly step up to perform with Manchester on this record speaks volumes.  The lady has serious street cred, the kind that opens doors and gets calls returned.  In 1983, she won a Grammy in the Best Female Pop Vocal Performance category for You Should Hear How She Talks About You, and she’s certainly no stranger to making Top 10 hits.  But it goes deeper than that.  There are other equally decorated singers who wouldn’t stand of chance of landing legends like Stevie Wonder and Al Jarreau on their records.  To use a Red Cross metaphor, Manchester is the universal blood type, the kind of person whose energy and passion is compatible with everyone.

Talk about compatibility; in Big Light, Manchester and Jarreau reunite, bringing back memories of their beautiful duet from the Out of Africa soundtrack all of those years ago.

 

Melissa Manchester and Al Jarreau share a tender moment during a break in their recording session. This shot was taken on 4/11/2014 at Citrus College Studio A. -- Photo credit Lena Ringstad

Melissa Manchester and Al Jarreau share a tender moment during a break in their recording session, 4/11/2014 at Citrus College Studio A.    Photo credit Lena Ringstad

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“Oh my goodness,” Manchester says, wistfully.  “Al is just the world’s largest elf [laughs].  He is so dear and so precious to me – he and I have toured together a couple of times, once as part of the Colors of Christmas Tour, and then together on our own tour.  He is such a loving spirit.”

How did these old friends reconnect?

“Lenny Castro, who is our percussionist and a magnificent friend, called me and said, ‘Missy, somebody wants to talk to you’.  And then he put Al on the phone!  Al said, ‘I hear you’re doing a record – can I sing on it?’  Just like that, he came to the studio ready to work.

“I thought Big Light would be a wonderful cast for him, because the meat of that song is so close to his nature, at least based on the songs that he’s written and chooses to record.  After he recorded his part, I went into the studio and thanked him.  I gave him a hug and he held on to me really tight and started crying, and he said, ‘Thank you for doing this and thank you for letting me be a part of this.’  It was a beautiful moment for me, and one that I’ll never forget.”

Having so many artists at her fingertips could be both a blessing and a curse.  Did Manchester write the lyrics with specific artists in mind?

“The songs on You Gotta Love the Life weren’t created for specific artists,” she explains.  “But when it came time to reach out, and to create a stage for them to perform, that’s when it became clear who the choices should be.  I believe that’s when the truth of the song shows up.  And then it’s about taking chances and hoping that the artist will want to be part of it all.”

Truth and chance.  Twenty albums in and Manchester is still listening to her inner voice, still trusting her gut.  She refuses to be pigeonholed as a balladeer; how else can you explain her decision to bury the soulful ballad I Know Who I Am – easily one of the standouts – at the end of the album’s playlist, the thirteenth of fourteen tracks?  And she refuses to succumb to creative atrophy; how else to explain the inspired decision to collaborate with actor Paul Reiser, he of Mad About You fame, on the witty, tongue-in-cheek No There There?

“Paul and I have toured together,” Manchester says, adding quickly:  “He wasn’t performing with me, but rather opening for me by doing standup.  He’s a very sweet person.  I hadn’t seen him in a long time, but I did have an opportunity to see him at a concert where he had co-written a lot of the music.  I thought that was so interesting and unexpected.  So when we got together I talked to him about this idea I had for a song, and I asked him if he wanted to help me write it.

 

No There There is interesting because a lot of my students had never heard of that expression.  It actually comes from the writer Gertrude Stein, whom I used to read a lot of when I was a teenager.  The song is quite personal, because I’ve gone through some fundamental changes in my life over the last couple years.” – Melissa Manchester

 

Like Keb’ Mo’, Joe Sample brings his distinctive style to Manchester’s record.  Famous for his piano work with everyone from Tina Turner to Marvin Gaye to Joni Mitchell, Sample’s résumé stretches on for days.  What was it like to finally collaborate with the late, great Joe Sample?

“I’ve been trying to work with Joe Sample for thirty years, but he was always just so busy,” Manchester replies.  “So you just sort of change your focus and you hope for the best.  My co-producer, Terry Wollman, knew Joe and had worked with him in the past, so there was a relationship already in place.  That got me excited.  Just the thought of being in a room with Joe Sample, and him playing on a song of mine – this would be as good as it gets.  Terry helped make my dream come true.

“Joe wasn’t traveling much, due to some health challenges, so I flew down to Houston where he lived.  We got into his studio and he played piano on Other End of the Phone.  I still get chills.  He started playing, and he has that distinctive style that doesn’t sound like anybody else.  As an artist, I am always looking for that inner life, because that is where the song comes alive for me.  That’s where I can get to the core of  my understanding of the truth, and that is what dictates the style of the music.  So when Joe put his hands on the piano, he couldn’t have been lovelier or funnier or more communicative.  It was toward the end of his career and he wasn’t feeling well, and yet he was exuberant and so full of life.  He was ready to meet his challenge, which unfortunately he could not overcome, but he was just a vibrant, beautiful person – another hero of mine.”

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It’s hard to imagine a musical Mt. Rushmore without Stevie Wonder, his face immortalized alongside icons like Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson.  Equal parts national treasure and musical savant, Stevie Wonder receives a never ending stream of performance requests, as has been the case for a very long time, and he is naturally very selective in terms of who he performs with.  To see him pop up on Manchester’s latest record tells you everything you need to know about her reputation within the industry.  Think about it.  This isn’t some run-of-the-mill pop star we’re talking about.

This is Stevie-effing-Wonder.

There has to be a story.

“Stevie Wonder, that was just unbelievable,” says Manchester admiringly.  “I recorded most of the album at Citrus College, which is one of the greatest secrets in our nation.  It’s a junior college, but their studio really rivals Capitol Records.

 

The legendary Stevie Wonder brings a masterful harmonica solo to Melissa Manchester's 20th studio album

The legendary Stevie Wonder brings a masterful harmonica solo to Melissa Manchester’s 20th studio album

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“When Stevie Wonder came it was spring break, so the campus was basically cleared, except for all of the security guards who knew who was coming.  There was also one room that had a group of students who were rehearsing for their band practice.  As Stevie was about to go into the studio to record for me, he heard the students  in the rehearsal room practicing, so he goes in that direction so he could listen to them.  Naturally we all followed.  He listened to them for a while, and he was very complimentary of their performance.  You should have seen the looks on the students’ faces when they realized the Stevie Wonder was interested in what they were doing.

“He came into my studio with his box of harmonicas afterwards, and he asked me what I had in mind.  Of course I sort of deferred and said, ‘Whatever you like’, and he immediately replied, ‘No, no, no, what do you want?’  So I told him what I had in mind, and he was just so amazing about it.  He played and played; he wanted to do it better, and then he wanted to do it in a different key, and then he wanted to try a different harmonica.  It was truly unbelievable, just seeing how accommodating and down to earth he was during the process, and how invested he was in getting it right.  And then we finally got it – actually, we got enough material for a thousand songs [laughs] – and after it was over, he stayed around and schmoozed with us for a long time.

“But when it was time to go, he heard the students playing down the hall again.  If you can visualize Stevie Wonder running toward that sound, that’s what he did, and we were all running after him.  He stood while they were rehearsing, and one of the young women asked him if he’d like to sing with them.  Well, he said, ‘What do you have?’  And she said that they’d been rehearsing Superstition, and he said, ‘Oh yeah?  Let me hear what you’ve got.’  He went to the mic in the center of the room, and they started playing Superstition, and he sung his head off [laughs].  It was unbelievable – I had tears running down my face.  He left after that, and everybody was screaming and thanking me for bringing him in.  It was an incredible moment.  Monumental.”

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Melissa Manchester’s powerful voice has always leant itself well to sweeping ballads, and it continues to be the foundation stone of her legendary music career.  I Know Who I Am is, in many ways, as much a love poem to her fans as it is a personal catharsis.  It’s not unlike the great Matisse building the Chapelle du Rosaire de Vence, with its stained glass windows and three great murals, this after a career filled with saturated color and divine innovation.

I Know Who I Am has had an interesting journey,” she says.  “I wrote that song with Joanna Cotten and Greg Barnhill at a home in Nashville.  It was part of Tyler Perry’s movie For Colored Girls, and was also used as part of a trailer for the movie The Butler.  The song is a monologue, and it’s sort of the perfect moment for me to sing that song, because I know the inner world of it, and I know what every word means.  I’ve lived to be able to say, as much as possible, ‘I know who I am.’  I could certainly sing this song at twenty or thirty, but at this point I have such a deep reservoir of truth for me to draw from.  And to have the young singers from Citrus College as my choir, it blended young voices and older voices, and I found that to be really touching.”

I Know Who I Am gives us a glimpse into Manchester’s gift for songwriting, which has been influenced by the likes of Paul Simon.  How has her storytelling changed through the years?

 

“I had the great honor to study with Paul Simon – he said, ‘The thing to remember is that all of the stories have been told.  The way you tell your story is your stamp of authenticity.’  And I’ve found that to be true.  I’ve held onto that piece of information forever.” – Melissa Manchester

 

“As I’ve gotten deeper into my life and my experience of being a writer, the craft takes over.  You learn that it’s not enough to spew lyrics and set them to a pile of notes.  You literally want to start shaping them, so that when somebody hears them for the first time, the words are deeply heard and felt.”

Paul Simon, like Stevie Wonder, is a giant in the music industry, the kind of artist who stands out in a crowd of artificially manufactured superstars.  His influence can be heard and felt the world over, with A-List talent like Sting counting him as a mentor – with a select few, such as Sting, actually sharing the stage with him.  What was it like for Manchester to develop such a close friendship with someone like Paul Simon?

 

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“I was seventeen years old, and had gone to NYU for about ten months,” says Manchester.  “Two of my friends signed me up for a record production course taught by Paul Simon.  No one was for sure that this was the Paul Simon, because Bridge Over Troubled Waters  was the number one song in the world at the time.  Indeed, not only was the Paul Simon of Simon and Garfunkel, he actually did all of the auditions himself.

“At the time, my musical muse was Laura Nyro.  I just couldn’t believe how talented she was, and I just listened to her all of the time.  So I played a song for Paul, and then he asked me to play another song.  And he asked me, ‘Do you listen to Laura Nyro?’, and I said, ‘Oh yes, all the time!’  He smiled at me and said, ‘Well, it’s time to stop now.’  And it was there that he started to talk to his students about authenticity, and about finding something that appeals to you, of course, but approaching it in a way that is yours.  That’s why his songs are so powerfully constructed.   I share that advice with my students today, as well as anyone who will listen, because it’s very true.”

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After Matisse conceived the Chapelle du Rosaire de Vence, he called it the crowning achievement of his entire career.  This was an extraordinary thing for him to say, since he was first and foremost a painter.  The chapel is an incredibly still and serene space, with stained glass windows designed by Matisse representing the tree of life.  The light passing through the windows somehow seems to repudiate his depiction of Christ’s suffering on the opposite wall, and one can’t help but think:  This is a man who spent his life foremost painting, yet in this place he leaves oil paints behind entirely.  Instead, the substance he’s working with – the material – is light.  It’s an innovative use of color that is both incredibly simplistic and something that you could look at all day.  What else could you ask of a great work of art?

 

Melissa Manchester

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In You Gotta Love the Life, the substance that Manchester’s working with is lessons learned – from her personal and professional life, from those who have meant so much to her through the years, and from the students who teach her something new every day.  She brings all of these voices together and they cohere expertly, giving us a work in which Manchester is at its center, yet equally willing to cede the spotlight and allow others to shine.  It is, in a way, a reflection of the democratic nature of the creative world in which we live today.

And that suits the forward-thinking Manchester just fine.

By:  Michael D. McClellan | He’s an R&B superstar, his résumé dotted with Grammy Awards, platinum albums and number one hits.  He’s written songs for some of the biggest names in the music industry, with writing credits that touch artists such as Mary J. Blige, Destiny’s Child, Faith Evans and the incomparable Celine Dion (more on that later).  He’s also an actor, an executive, and the driving force behind a charity that enhances the well-being of youth growing up in foster care and group homes.  Yes, it’s safe to say that Shaffer Chimere Smith – Ne-Yo to the rest of us – is one immensely talented and equally busy dude, but that only begins to scratch the surface of the Ne-Yo landscape, a vast expanse of creative and socially conscious intellect that few in the business can match.

To sit down with Ne-Yo is to get a crash course in what it takes to be a true professional in the entertainment biz.  The man is nothing if not exacting, a stickler for perfection who yearns to make great music, and that comes across immediately.  It’s clear that he’s not in it for the money – so when he says that his wealth is a byproduct of his success, he comes across as the genuine article.  It’s also clear that part of him could care less about the trappings of fame, although he acknowledges that most artists, including himself, are all narcissistic to a certain degree.  Refreshingly, Ne-Yo is as down to earth and as ordinary as a superstar might come, a fact reinforced by the way he makes small talk before we start the interview.  Suddenly, it feels less like a Q&A session and more like chill time with Ne-Yo, the red-hot R&B performer with the down-to-earth sensibilities.

Born on October 18, 1982 in Camden, Arkansas, to musician parents, Ne-Yo spent his childhood in Las Vegas, after his mother separated from his father.   He later auditioned for the Las Vegas Academy, a magnet high school where students claim a “major” pertaining to performing arts, visual arts, or foreign languages, and it was here that he found himself drawn to his first group, writing songs as a member of the R&B ensemble, Envy.  While the group’s existence was short-lived, his passion for song-writing continued unabated.  As we settle into the interview, I stare at a list of hit songs that includes Beyoncé’s Irreplaceable, and I can’t help but wonder how Ne-Yo works his magic.

“I usually start with the melody first, and then fit the lyrics into the structure of the song,” he says quickly.  “But really, there’s no right or wrong way to do it.  I’ve actually done it the completely opposite way, where I’ve come up with the lyrics first.  And anything can literally become a song – I’ve actually seen a phrase on a cereal box that’s inspired a song.  It’s really about how the inspiration hits you that day.”

 

Ne-Yo: Writing session in the studio

Ne-Yo: Writing session in the studio

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Writing is only part of what makes Ne-Yo tick.  A performer at heart, in 2000 he’d managed to catch the attention of Columbia Records, who quickly signed him to his first record deal.  It appeared to be the breakthrough he’d been waiting for, but the label dropped him before he could release his first studio album.  The setback didn’t keep him down for long; R&B singer Marques Houston listened to Ne-Yo’s song That Girl, which was slated for the album, and decided to record his own version.  Released as a single in 2003, That Girl was an instant hit and put Ne-Yo squarely on the music map.

Listening to him talk, I wonder:  Does it bother him that another artist was able to capitalize on a song he’d originally written for himself?

Ne-Yo:  “People ask me all the time if I have a problem with the fact that I haven’t written a song for myself that has been as big as some of the songs that I’ve written for other people.  The answer is that I don’t.  It’s still me, as far as I’m concerned.  Everybody knows the Beyoncé record Irreplaceable, but everybody also knows that Ne-Yo wrote that record.  So as long as people appreciate the blood, sweat and tears that I put into a record then I’ve served my purpose and I’m happy.”

 

“People ask me all the time if I have a problem with the fact that I haven’t written a song for myself that has been as big as some of the songs that I’ve written for other people.  The answer is that I don’t.  It’s still me, as far as I’m concerned.  Everybody knows the Beyoncé record Irreplaceable, but everybody also knows that Ne-Yo wrote that record.  So as long as people appreciate the blood, sweat and tears that I put into a record then I’ve served my purpose and I’m happy.” – Ne-Yo

 

Working without a label and yet undeterred, Ne-Yo continued to write for other artists while laying the groundwork for his own career as a solo R&B performer.  His big break came in 2004, when he wrote Let Me Love You for another R&B singer, Mario.  The song was melodic and sweetly lilting, reminiscent of Michael Jackson’s vintage romantic ballads.  And, like a monster hit from the King of Pop himself, Let Me Love You raced up the Billboard Hot 100, landing at Number 1 and staying there for nine consecutive weeks.

For Ne-Yo, how did it feel to have his work compared to one of the greatest performers ever?

“It blows my mind,” he says, “because every R&B performer dreams of being mentioned in the same breath as Michael Jackson.  And while it’s flattering, I try my best to be my own person as an entertainer.  Will there be comparisons?  Definitely – it’s going to happen, because, in my personal opinion, everything is inspired by something else.  There is no 100% original thought.  The inspiration happens and then the inspiration comes.  By no means am I trying to become the next Michael Jackson.  There is no next MJ.  There will never be another MJ.  However, I can pay homage to the person that made it possible for me to be where I am.”

I mention that there were several high-profile artists paying homage to the King of Pop following his death in 2009, including Usher.  What effect did the loss of arguably the greatest entertainer ever have on Ne-Yo?

“Michael Jackson’s passing was difficult for me,” Ne-Yo says.  “He was such a huge inspiration.  He’s one of the reasons I’m doing music.  It would have been an incredible experience to work with a genius like that.  He had a true vision for what he wanted to do as an artist, and he had the talent to make it happen.  I’m just happy that I got to meet him one time before he passed, because it’s one of those memories that will never fade away.”

 

“Michael Jackson’s passing was difficult for me.  He was such a huge inspiration.  He’s one of the reasons I’m doing music.  It would have been an incredible experience to work with a genius like that.  He had a true vision for what he wanted to do as an artist, and he had the talent to make it happen.  I’m just happy that I got to meet him one time before he passed, because it’s one of those memories that will never fade away.” – Ne-Yo

 

Does he feel as if he has to carry the torch, or fill a void left behind by the music legend?

“Now that he’s not here anymore, it not so much a case of me having to carry the torch as it is for me to keep alive what he stood for musically.  I think we’ve fallen into a place where melody is somewhat lacking in music today.  People hear too much melody or too much harmony, and it kind of goes over their heads.  Sometimes it feels as if they don’t understand it.  Michael Jackson believed in making music to make people feel good.  His stuff was loaded with melody and harmony.  Those things are so important, in my opinion – it’s not always about money, or about sex, or whatever the case may be.  Sometimes it’s just about a song that makes you feel good.  That’s the kind of music that he did, and that’s the kind of music that I try to produce.”

After signing with Def Jam in 2005, Ne-Yo released his first album, In My Own Words, which immediately vaulted to Number 1 on the Billboard 200 and eventually went platinum.  The second single from that album, So Sick, reached Number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 that same week.  Suddenly, Ne-Yo’s career trajectory was on a seriously upward arc.  Not lost on him was the irony that the R&B genre itself had started taking on water, being overran but hip-hop and, to a lesser degree, dance music.

“R&B is suffering as a genre today,” Ne-Yo concedes.  “For whatever reason, people making this music have lost touch with what real emotion is.  The thing that made those classic R&B records great was that they were heartfelt and real.  I feel that R&B is a little shallow today, and a little hollow right now, and that’s why people aren’t connecting to it like they once did.  With dance music today, it’s not so much about what’s being said as about what the music is making you feel.  It’s about what that driving beat is doing to you.  So even if it’s only evoking one specific emotion, at least it’s doing that – there’s an energy with dance music that’s undeniable.  R&B performers need to figure out how to bring those emotions back if the genre is going to make a comeback.”

Ne-Yo’s second album, Because of You, was released on May 1, 2007.  It promptly shot to the top of the Billboard Hot 200 and, like his debut album, went platinum.  Because of You landed Ne-Yo his first Grammy Award, this for Best Contemporary R&B Album.  It also helped to cement his reputation as an elite singer / songwriter.  But what about owning the stage?  Acts like Chris Brown and Usher carried reputations as top tier stage performers.  Ne-Yo fans knew that their guy could more than hold his own, but there seemed to be a recognition gap.  Does the same hold true today?  Does Ne-Yo feel like he gets the recognition he deserves when it comes to performing onstage?

“To be completely honest with you I don’t feel like I do,” he says matter-of-factly.  “I’m not going to sit here and cry about it, because I feel like there will come a time when people will recognize me for what I do onstage.  All I can do is make sure that every time I set foot on a stage, that I give 200% and leave it out there.  If I do that, then I feel that eventually people will understand that.  The stage is my second home; that’s where I live, and that’s what I do.  They’ll get it in time.  I’m not going to chase the world.  I’d rather let the world chase me.”

 

Ne-Yo performs onstage

Ne-Yo performs onstage

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In 2008 Ne-Yo released his third album, Year of the Gentleman, a tip of the hat to old school swag.  The heavy hitting hip-hop vibe was everywhere, from its aggressive, angry, in-your-face lyrics to its gritty, from-the-streets roots.  Gentleman was an attempt to bring back some of the charm that came from the R&B artists of yesteryear.  The album reached Number 2 on the Billboard 200, went platinum, and was nominated for Best Contemporary R&B Album and Album of the Year at the 2009 Grammy Awards.  The song Miss Independent peaked at Number 7 on the Billboard Hot 100 and earned two Grammys, Best Male R&B Vocal Performance and Best R&B Song.

While appreciative of the Grammys and the recognition, Ne-Yo remained focused on his craft, preferring to make hits rather than headlines.  For him, his work is all about substance.

“I understand that fame and celebrity are very trivial nowadays,” he says flatly.  “You really don’t have to do anything special or spectacular to be famous anymore.  Seriously.  Basically, all you have to do is be a train wreck and it’s enough for people to talk about and you’re famous.

“I never wanted my fame or my recognition to be anything about that.  I only want people to recognize me for the quality of my music.  That’s all I want people to care about – recognition for the quality of my music, and for the blood, sweat and tears that I put into my performances – those are the things I want people to pay attention to, not that Ne-Yo is dating this celebrity girl, or that Ne-Yo just got arrested for whatever.

 

Ne-Yo: Grammy red carpet photo op

Ne-Yo: Grammy red carpet photo op

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“I feel that controversy and scandal is gimmicky to a certain respect.  And I didn’t want my fame to be gimmicky.  I wanted to be valid, I wanted to be real.  And I want true respect, as opposed to grabbing for fame or recognition.  If I’m not as popular as the guy who gets arrested ten times in a year and ends up being glorified on the cover of a magazine for it, then so be it.  Trust me, I’m not tripping.”

It’s a refreshing attitude for sure.  It harkens back to the way his first idol, Sammy Davis Jr., conducted himself with the public.  As we talk about idols, I ask:  Who else has had an impact on the singer whose nickname is taken from the character Neo in The Matrix?

“My idols are Michael Jackson, Sammy Davis Jr., Stevie Wonder and Prince,” he says without hesitation.  “Prince is the ultimate performer.  Prince is that dude that’s going to get up on that stage, by himself if he has to, and he’s going to hold you in the palm of his hand from start to finish.  Like, you literally can’t take your eyes off of that man when he’s onstage.  He could just be sitting there, doing absolutely nothing, but you still can’t take your eyes off him.

“And the thing I love about Prince is that he never, ever changed.  He is who he is, which is impressive in this business, where people try to make you into something you’re not.  Prince said, ‘This is me. I’m going to put on these heels, and I’m going to throw on this shirt with all the frilly on it, and you’re gonna catch up to me – I’m not going to run after y’all.  You have to deal with it.  You have to catch up to me.’”

 

“Prince is the ultimate performer.  Prince is that dude that’s going to get up on that stage, by himself if he has to, and he’s going to hold you in the palm of his hand from start to finish.  Like, you literally can’t take your eyes off of that man when he’s onstage.  He could just be sitting there, doing absolutely nothing, but you still can’t take your eyes off him.” – Ne-Yo

 

Ne-Yo’s fourth album, Libra Scale, was released in 2010.  It was an ambitious effort, with a futuristic theme running through the entire album.  It represented something of a hiccup for the R&B superstar, in that it was met with lukewarm sales and was dismissed by most critics as overly self-indulgent.

“I knew going in that Libra Scale may not be the most commercially successful record I’d make,” he concedes, meeting the question head-on.  “There are a lot of firsts in that record.  And in retrospect, I tried to weave the concept across the entire album, whereas Michael Jackson did that with only one song on Thriller.  He had an unbelievable video built around the title song, and then the rest of the music stood on its own as great music.  If I had a do over, I’d probably follow that same path.  The attention span today just doesn’t support something as involved as what I tried to do on Libra Scale.

“But being an artist is about taking chances.  You gotta give the fans what they want, and at the same time you’ve gotta be true to yourself, too.  If you only give the fans what they want, then you become a robot, and you’re not an artist anymore.  You’re a people pleaser.  And it’s been said a million times, you can’t please everyone all the time.  As an artist you have to embrace that risk.  You jump off the cliff, and you either fly or you fall to your death.  But either way, you gotta jump.”

Did the criticism hurt?

“Definitely,” he says.  “To be an artist is to be an emotional wreck to a degree.  As an artist, you thrive off of the acceptance of other people.  You put your heart and soul into the music, and you give it to the world, and you beg them to love you.  They either do, or they don’t.  And when they don’t, you feel it.  It hurts.”

Still, all of those Grammy Award nominations has to lessen the sting of the occasional creative misfire – doesn’t it?

Ne-Yo:  “The Grammy Award is ‘The One’.  It’s the highest award that you can get in music.  It never gets old.  So, the nomination alone is a victory in and of itself.  It says that, of everything that happened in music throughout the year, they singled your work out as one of the best.  Now, of course, you want the trophy, but if you don’t get it then you should be happy with the nomination.  I know I am.  And it definitely feels better to get a nomination than to get beat up by the press for taking chances with your art.”

Ne-Yo’s penchant for taking risks isn’t confined to music.  He’s always been interested in acting, and has had the opportunity to involve himself in several big-budget films, including his turn as USMC Cpl. Kevin J. “Specks” Harris in 2011’s Battle: Los Angeles.  Which begs the question:  Who are some of Ne-Yo’s favorite actors?

 

Ne-Yo in Battle: Los Angeles

Ne-Yo in Battle: Los Angeles

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“I like versatility in an actor,” he says.  “Jared Leto is a good example.  In every film, he’s playing somebody completely different.  His look will change or his voice will change or whatever – I like actors that can do that. I’ve always wanted to be that guy who could turn into a whole other person if I felt like it.

“I love Tom Hanks, he’s one of my favorites.  I love his versatility – the fact that he can do dramas, that he can do comedy – he has so much range that it’s ridiculous.  Bruce Willis is another favorite – he can do comedy, and then he can turn around and do action.  I guess I just love versatile performers.”

What was it about Battle: Los Angeles that appealed to him as an actor?

“Being able to do something that was completely not me,” Ne-Yo says quickly.  I did Stomp the Yard, which was my first actual film.  It was about historical black colleges, but it was basically a dance/R&B film.  So there wasn’t much of a challenge there, not much of a stretch for me.  But the character that I played in Battle: Los Angeles was quirky.  He was this kind of high-strung dude.  He was really conservative, too.  And he always had these really, really dorky glasses on.  The military calls them BCGs – birth-control glasses – because no woman in her right mind would ever have sex with you while you’re wearing these glasses [laughs].  So that’s how they explained the character to me, and I knew right away that this was going to be different.  This wasn’t like anything I’ve played before, or anything that connected to me in real life.  So I was ready for it.  I took the challenge and I loved it.”

Perhaps the highest profile movie Ne-Yo has acted in to date has been Red Tails.  Produced by George Lucas and directed by Anthony Hemingway, the movie is a fictionalized portrayal of the Tuskegee Airmen, a group of African American United States Army Air Forces servicemen who fought during World War II.

 

Ne-Yo in Red Tails

Ne-Yo in Red Tails

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“Initially I had a little bit of knowledge of the Tuskegee Airmen,” Ne-Yo says, “but by doing this movie, I was able to gain a better understanding of who these cats were – they were top of the line, the cream of the crop.  These were like the first black superheroes!  They were definitely the smartest dudes out there, the strongest dudes out there, and they were doing things that, according to their white counterparts, people of color were not smart enough to do.  Think about it – they were flying missions to protect the bombers, who were flying the bigger, slower planes.  Under the care of the Tuskegee Airmen, not a single bomber was lost.  So they not only excelled, they far exceeded anything that was expected of them.  I was absolutely honored to be a part of that film.”

In 2012, Ne-Yo rebounded musically with R.E.D., which features the megahit Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself), co-written by famed Australian singer / songwriter Sia Furler.

“The song is about the importance of learning to love yourself first,” he says.  “I have to give a shout out Sia, who co-wrote the song with me.  That was actually her stroke of genius not mine, so I’ve got to give credit where credit is due.  She actually wrote the line, ‘Let me love you, and I will love you until you learn to love yourself.’

What does the song mean to him personally?

“I think finding people who accept themselves for who they are is rare.  Few and far between today, actually.  Everybody’s getting cosmetic surgery this, or plastic surgery that, and it’s like nobody loves themselves for who they really are anymore.  So a song talking about the importance of being who you are, and loving the flaws that are yours and yours alone, meant a lot to me.  It’s the imperfections in each of us that create our perfection, so I was all for putting this song out there.  I thought the timing was right.”

Speaking of what makes each of us unique, Ne-Yo himself is pretty serious when it comes to diet and working out.

“I take care of myself and work out six days a week,” he says, smiling.  “It is definitely a labor of love.  On my cheat day I eat anything I can get my hands on.  I’m not that difficult to please.  Anything that has red sauce and cheese, I’m all in.  I love Italian food.  I’m a pizza guy.  Pizza, pasta, and only one day a week to do it, so I’m sure to get my fill.”

As if his schedule isn’t busy enough, he can now add the executive tag to his résumé.

“I’m now the Senior VP of A&R Records,” he says, “so now I have the ability to help out the millions of people who run up on me with their demos, YouTube links or whatever.  Now I’m in a position to do something about it.  But you gotta have what I’m looking for.  The disappointing thing is that nobody seems to want to work for it anymore.  There’s a lot of dependency on Auto-Tune.  Don’t get me wrong, I would be a complete hypocrite if I told you that I’ve never used Auto-Tune, but there’s a big difference between using it as a safety net and using it as wings.  You know what I mean?  You don’t jump off the building with your Auto-Tune wings.  That’s not how you’re supposed to do it.  There is a thing called singing on key, and learning how to do so.  And it seems like a lot of the kids that run up on me don’t even understand what that is.”

 

“I’m now the Senior VP of A&R Records, so now I have the ability to help out the millions of people who run up on me with their demos, YouTube links or whatever.  Now I’m in a position to do something about it.  But you gotta have what I’m looking for.  The disappointing thing is that nobody seems to want to work for it anymore.  There’s a lot of dependency on Auto-Tune.  Don’t get me wrong, I would be a complete hypocrite if I told you that I’ve never used Auto-Tune, but there’s a big difference between using it as a safety net and using it as wings.  You know what I mean?  You don’t jump off the building with your Auto-Tune wings.  That’s not how you’re supposed to do it.  There is a thing called singing on key, and learning how to do so.  And it seems like a lot of the kids that run up on me don’t even understand what that is.” – Ne-Yo

 

What exactly is he looking for in new talent?

“When I look for artists, I look for passion first and foremost.  I look for people who do this because the love it, not because they want to get rich, not because they want to be famous.  RaVaughn Brown is a prime example.  I met her in California as a demo singer.  I was introduced to her by a producer friend of mine, and I was impressed by her work ethic.  That’s hard to find today.  The younger cats today don’t understand what it’s like to stay in the studio until the song is perfect.  She definitely gets all of that.”

And looking at the music industry through an executives eyes, what are some of the trends that he sees and would like to capitalize on?

“There are a lot of positive things going on,” he says.  “The lines between music genres are being blurred more and more every day.  Where does hip-hop start and end, what is R&B, what makes up dance, it goes on and on.  And I kind of dig that.  Like, maybe this hip-hop cat does something with a little melody in it, where it could almost be called an R&B song.  Or this R&B artist might use a cadence within his melody, that could almost be considered hip-hop.  Or maybe these artists come up with a floor-on-the-floor beat to where it could almost be considered a dance song.  So I like the fact that everyone is kind of mixing and blending and coming up with these new sounds.  It’s an exciting place to be.”

Now, about that little thing with Celine Dion…

 

Ne-Yo and Celine Dion

Ne-Yo and Celine Dion

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“I’ve done some stuff for Celine Dion – that’s major, man.  Wrote some stuff for her, as well as did a song with her.  So, shout out to the incomparable Celine Dion.  She’s performing in Vegas at Caesar’s Palace, she’s been there for a few years doing that.  I’m from Vegas, and while I’m not sure exactly how it all came together, I just know I got a call one day, and that Celine wanted me to write her a song.  Of course I said I’d do it.  So I put the song together, and it was a beautiful thing.  It was also a little scary, to tell you the truth, because she decided to turn the song into a duet and she wanted me to sing it with her.  I didn’t see why my voice was needed when you have Celine Dion, but I held my own.  It came out dope.”

Perhaps the work closest to his heart is his charity, The Compound Foundation.  Founded in 2007, the foundation has quickly gone nationwide, with an influential Board of Directors that includes Bill Nuti, the CEO of NCR Corporation, and Kevin Carr, the VP of Community and Player Programs for the National Basketball Association.

“Our mission is child welfare, everything from group homes to foster care.  It’s one thing to feed a child, it’s another thing to house a child, but it’s a completely different thing to inspire a child.  Especially in the realm of foster kids and group home kids, because these are children who have been counted out before they get the opportunity to prove that they’re something more than just trouble.  Kids in foster homes and group homes get stigmas associated with them – people automatically look at them you like there’s something wrong with them.  That’s not fair.  These kids miss out on a lot of opportunities because of those stereotypes.  We step in and say, ‘Where you come from and where you go don’t have anything to do with each other.’

“We do everything from life skills to teaching kids how to fill out a job application.  If you’re a kid bouncing from house to house with everything you own in a trash bag, which sadly happens more than you know, then you miss out on things that we take from granted every day, like balancing a checkbook.  There are scholarships that you can get just because you’re a foster kid.  If you don’t know about it, how can you take advantage of it?  Our foundation works to help with these types of situations.”

What’s on tap for 2014?

“The next album is my sixth studio album, and even though I have a love and respect for EDM (electronic dance music) – that audience has been ridiculously kind and generous – I’m going to get back to my roots, so to speak.  I don’t feel that I’ve given R&B the respect and attention that it needs and deserves.  Plus, there’s a revolution underway in R&B; when you look at what Miquel did, and what Frank Ocean did, it’s easy to get really excited about what’s happening in R&B right now.  So my next album will be predominantly R&B.”

And where does Shaffer Chimere Smith – AKA, Ne-Yo, AKA, R&B’s R.E.D. hot man of many hats – see himself decades from now, when the glare of the stage has dimmed and the public’s adulation has waned?

“I started out behind the scenes, writing music, my first love.  I can still be writing music at 105, but trying to step out on the stage and perform at 105 could be a problem [laughs].”

By:  Michael D. McClellan | He has the kind of God-given talent that comes along once in a generation, this mandolin-playing genius with the hands that should be insured by Lloyds of London, and yet he remains something of a mystery to most of us, a hidden treasure with one of the most unique stories in the music business, and that’s perfectly fine with him.  Johnny Staats is comfortable in his own skin.  He gets up early every workday morning, as he has for the past twenty-plus years, and he sets out in his brown U.P.S. truck, delivering packages on his route just north of Charleston, West Virginia, working long hours in the freezing cold of winter and in the sweltering heat of summer, content to earn an honest day’s pay for an honest day’s work.  Never mind that his talent is, in a word, otherworldly.  Never mind that he’s on a first-name basis with country music legends Brad Paisley and Kathy Mattea.  Forget for a moment that he’s played the Grand Ole Opry not once, not twice but five times.  Johnny Staats is as self-effacing as they come, this despite his prodigious talent and his five-star street cred among some of the heaviest hitters in Nashville.

 

 

Is there another story in music remotely like this?

Imagine Bach, Beethoven or Mozart forging tools in a blacksmith’s shop by day, and then performing in front of royalty by night.  Johnny Staats drives that U.P.S. truck down some of the dustiest roads you could imagine, getting it done on time and with a smile on his boyish face, all the while looking forward to taking the stage and giving the next command performance.  Yes, Johnny Staats kills it when it comes to the mandolin.  You’d just never know it unless you’ve seen him play – or unless someone has let you in on his secret.

 

Johnny Staats and his U.P.S. truck

Johnny Staats and his U.P.S. truck

 

We sit down at a Bob Evens Restaurant in Ripley, WV, not far from where Staats calls home.  It’s crowded with families fresh from Sunday morning church service.  A waitress approaches – her name is Val, and it’s immediately clear that she knows Johnny.  Turns out that they went to high school together.  She smiles.

“I didn’t know you were having lunch with a celebrity,” she gushes, and then jumps into her favorite Johnny Staats story.  Everybody in these parts, it seems, has one.

The Johnny Staats narrative begins at the age of eight, when his father put a mandolin in his hands for the first time.  The connection with the instrument was instantaneous.  So was his passion for bluegrass.  Staats fell in love with the music of Bill Monroe, the mandolin player who essentially created bluegrass music, and he soon found himself dreaming of a career like his idol’s.  By age 9 he was playing in his first band, Bluegrass Heritage.  By the time he was a teenager, Staats was performing in regional competitions and developing a reputation as something of a string-playing whiz-kid.  The attention was lost on him; for the unassuming Staats, it was simply a matter of him doing what he loved most.

“I came from a musical family,” Staats says.  “It’s just what we did.  My father played guitar, and I remember him asking me what instrument I wanted to play.  I said drums, but he shot that idea down quickly [laughs].  He had an old mandolin in the house, so he handed it to me and that’s how it all started.

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“My father played guitar, and I remember him asking me what instrument I wanted to play.  I said drums, but he shot that idea down quickly [laughs].  He had an old mandolin in the house, so he handed it to me and that’s how it all started.” – Johnny Staats

 

“The first song I ever learned to play was a folk song called Get Along Home Little Cindy.   Dad would hum it out for me, but I also listened to it on an old 8-track tape player.  I remember letting it play and listening to it all night – the machine would click, and it would play again.  And then when I was trying to learn all of the breaks, the way Bill Monroe or Doyle Lawson or Sam Bush or the other great mandolin players might play the song, well then I used a record player for that.”

It was clear from an early age that Staats was different, and that he followed his own musical compass.  This became even more evident as he reached high school.

“Back when I was going to high school, bluegrass music wasn’t very cool or very popular,” he says.  “I’ll put it this way, you wasn’t going to pick up a girl if you played bluegrass music [laughs].  Everyone in high school was interested in the mainstream music, the rock bands, groups like REO Speedwagon, things like that.  But that wasn’t me.  There was something about string music that appealed to me.  That’s what I was all about.”

Not that Staats was one dimensional or close-minded when it came to sampling music.

“I listened to a lot of stuff,” he says quickly.  “I listened to everything from rock to bluegrass to jazz to classical.  I loved classical music, and still listen to it today.  Bach is my favorite.  But I didn’t listen to much country music at all, and that’s still true today.  I think the reason is because I like high-energy music, not the stuff that’s going to put you to sleep.”

 

Johnny Staats ripping it up with his mandolin

Johnny Staats – Jamming with his mandolin

 

That energy and creativity carried Staats to mandolin titles in Charleston’s prestigious Vandalia Festival in 1996, 1997 and 1999.  From there, it seemed like only a matter of time before Staats would put together his first record.

Kathy Mattea worked with me on my Wires and Wood album,” Staats says.  “She sang on the song Coal Tattoo.  It almost didn’t happen, because family is the most important thing to me and I didn’t want to chance a good-paying job for something so risky.  But Ron Sowell, the Mountain Stage music director, was pretty persistent about it.  He begged me to go to Nashville, said it couldn’t hurt to go down and check it out.”

The visit, by all accounts, went extremely well.  Staats was able to meet influential people in the music business, like Sony executive John Van Meter, as well as connect with a number of well-known and well-connected musicians.  Even at that, getting Staats to commit to cutting an album was anything but a slam dunk.

“When we got back from Nashville, there was a lot of talk about me making a CD,”  Staats says.  “But I really wasn’t interested.  I was happy with the way my life was going.  But Ron kept after me, he told me that there wasn’t any risk because the music company was fronting the money to cut the CD.  So we went back down to Sony Tree Studio on Music Row, right in the middle of downtown Nashville.

“It was a whirlwind.  We were working with people like Kathy Mattea, Sara Evans, Sam Bush of the New Grass Revival, Jerry Douglas, Tim O’Brien – all huge names in country and bluegrass.  And they all wanted to jump in and help us make this CD.”

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“It was a whirlwind.  We were working with people like Kathy Mattea, Sara Evans, Sam Bush of the New Grass Revival, Jerry Douglas, Tim O’Brien – all huge names in country and bluegrass.” – Johnny Staats

 

This was early 2000.  What happened next only adds to the lore that is Johnny Staats.

“We put the CD out, and Sony was shopping it around,” Staats says in his familiar West Virginia twang.  “Well, there was this music store in Nashville – Tower Records – that was actually playing our demo on the floor when a guy from New York City walks in.  He hears the music and immediately asks the store manager about it, and she tells him about me.  Turns out his name is Neill Strauss, and he’s a writer for The New York Times.

“One thing led to another, and he ended up getting my home phone number.  So he calls and introduces himself, tells me he’s a reporter from New York, and that he’d like to come to West Virginia and do a story on me.  I think it’s a prank call, so I hang up on him.  Then he calls back and explains that he wants to follow me around on my truck and feature my music in the Times.  So I call my boss, and he says, ‘I reckon it’s okay, bring him on down.’”

The story, published on February 1, 2000, was titled Bluegrass in a Big Brown Truck.  In a world void of social media, word of the package-delivering, mandolin-playing U.P.S. driver still spread like wildfire.

“Mr. Strauss rode with me on the truck all day,” Staats recalls.  “He was pretty tired when it was all over, because it’s hard work delivering packages.  And right before he left he said something I’ll never forget – he said that my life was getting ready to change.  I didn’t pay any attention to it, honestly.  I just thanked him for coming down and invited him to come back anytime.  As far as I was concerned, that was the end of that.

“Well, as soon as the story hit the street, the phone calls flooded in at the U.P.S. office in Parkersburg, West Virginia.  CBS called.  CNN called.  The Today Show.  Good Morning America.  It was overwhelming, and not just for me – my boss wanted to know what was going on, and I told him I had no idea.  That’s how surprising it was when everything hit.  Thankfully, the company worked with me so that the shows could come and do their interviews and film their segments.  CNN came twice.  The Today Show came twice.  It was crazy around that place for a while.”

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“Phone calls flooded in at the U.P.S. office in Parkersburg.  CBS called.  CNN called.  The Today Show.  Good Morning America.  It was overwhelming, and not just for me – my boss wanted to know what was going on, and I told him I had no idea.” – Johnny Staats

 

Staats also made the pages of People Magazine, who saw the Times article and ended up doing a full-page piece of their own.  The memory causes Johnny Staats to smile.  He shakes his head.  You know there’s a story’s coming.

“I’ll never forget it,” he chuckles.  “The guy from the magazine shows up, it’s the dead of winter – there’s snow on the ground – and he’s wearing sunglasses.  He’s going to follow me around on the truck like Neill Strauss did, so I tell him he may want to pick up a pair of boots somewhere.  He just shrugs and tells me he’ll be fine.  Well, we jump in the truck and make a stop, and I’m carrying a package to a house.  He’s walking behind me.  Suddenly, I hear this awful noise.  When I turn around he’s on the ground, flat on his back.  He’d slipped on the ice in those fancy dress shoes and hit hard – I think it knocked the breath completely out of him.”

Critical acclaim for Wires and Wood was universal.  And at a time when bluegrass musicians didn’t land major record deals, the extra media attention helped push Staats into rarified air.

“I signed a deal with Giant Records,” Staats says.  “Ricky Skaggs told me that deals like that don’t come around very often for bluegrass musicians.  So, for me, it was an easy choice to make.”

And while signing with Giant represented a high-water mark for Staats, he would soon get a taste of the less glamorous side of the music business.

“Within six or seven months of me signing, Giant records went under.  We sold something like 30,000 copies the first three months before that happened, which is unheard of in bluegrass music.  That’s a top selling CD in that category.  So up until the collapse of Giant Records, everything was a whirlwind for me.  And I think Neill Strauss was the guy that started it all.  He must have known that it was a good story – here’s a working man in Johnny Staats who also plays bluegrass – and I think he knew he was going to start something big with that article.  He tried to warn me before he flew back to New York, and boy was he right.”

For Staats, the collapse of Giant Records wasn’t the end of the road – there  would be other opportunities available to him in Nashville – but the bankruptcy left an indelible mark.

“I could have gone back there and done other things, but it just wasn’t for me.  The music business is either steak or beans – when everybody likes you, you’re up on top, eating steak.  And when your popularity wears off, then you’re back to eating beans.  There’s a lot of pressure on an artist.  If you’re not out there selling records, then they’re not going to keep you around very long.  So after the Giant collapse I decided to keep it fun.”

Keeping it fun meant forming a new band.

“We call ourselves Johnny Staats and the Delivery Boys,” he says proudly.  “It’s been working out great.  I’ll be able to retire from U.P.S. in about four years, and then I’ll be able to play all that I want.”

With a new band came the inspiration for a new album – this time with complete creative control.  Staats and the boys recorded and produced it themselves.  They are also responsible for the marketing, and don’t have to wonder whether a record company is going to pull the rug out from under them.

“The album is called Time Moves On,” Staats says, pausing.  “It was pretty sad how this project started out.  I lost my dad two years ago to cancer.  He wrote the lyrics to the title track, and I can still remember him telling me he needed to finish the song before he passed away.  So this album is very personal for me.  There are times when I start playing that song and I just can’t finish it – I have to switch to another song in order to keep going.  I still can’t believe he’s not here with me today.  It’s hard.

 

The 'Time Moves On' album, released February 2013

The ‘Time Moves On’ album, released February 2013

 

“I initially wanted to release this album with a record company, but they expect you to tour and make appearances to promote your work.  It was going to be a big demand on my time, and I have a great job with U.P.S.  I couldn’t be in two places at once.  So I told the boys in the band that we were going to do this ourselves.  And we’re making double the money.”

One of the more unique songs on the album is Big Coal River, notable because of the involvement of Billy Edd Wheeler.  Wheeler, from Boone County, West Virginia, is a folk music giant.  His songs have been played by such artists as Elvis Presley, Johnny Cash and Kenny Rogers.  Wheeler’s song Jackson turned out to be a Grammy Award winner for Cash; and his Coward of the County helped Rogers transcend country music and win over a whole new population of fans.

“We’re great friends, Staats says.  “Billy wrote the song Coal Tattoo, which is on the Wires and Wood album, and he said that the version on my album is his favorite.  The Oak Ridge Boys have a rendition.  There have a lot of other acts that have covered, too, but Bill really liked the way I did it.  That song started our friendship.  We are in touch a lot, we’ve played a couple of shows together, that sort of thing.  So Billy approached me, and said that he’d like to write a song together.

“Billy wrote the lyrics from his home in North Carolina, sent them to me and asked me to put a melody to it.  I told him that I already had a melody in my head – somber and sort of haunting.  The funny thing is that I didn’t have to change anything.  The lyrics and the melody just fit together like a ball and a glove.  It was a thrill just to work with a genius like that – he’s written plays like Hatfields and McCoys, and he’s just an unbelievable artist.”

Another song with a unique story on the album is Sneakin Deacon.

“I named that song after my old coon dog,” Staats says, smiling.  “That was the same coon dog that I took hunting with us when CNN came to town.  Larry King from CNN told me that he was coming to listen to me play music, but that I was going to take him coon hunting [laughs].  Boy, it was crazy – who would have thought I’d be coon hunting in the West Virginia hills with Larry King?”

Never Mind the Mule is, like most of Johnny Staats’ material, very personal in nature – in this case, a snapshot of his life as a truck driver for U.P.S.

“That song wrote itself.  I listen to what people say, and every morning this guy I work with would say, ‘Never mind the mule, just load the wagon’.  And I thought it would be a great title for a bluegrass song.  And the lyrics tell the story of what we do as drivers.  We work late, and those back roads sure can get lonely at night.”

As an artist, lonely is not the word to describe Johnny Staats.  His prodigious talent has taken him to Nashville and back, and has allowed him to share the stage with some of the biggest acts in show business.

“I have a good friend who plays for Huey Lewis,” Staats says.  “His name is Johnny Colla.  He’s the one who started Huey Lewis and the News, along with Huey himself.  I met Johnny in Nashville.  Well, he called me a couple of years ago and told me that the band was coming to Charleston to perform, and he asked me to bring my mandolin and come to the show and play.

“I make it to the performance hall right before the show, and Johnny introduces me to Huey on the spot.  We’re standing there, and Johnny asks Huey if I could join them onstage.  Huey just smiles and says, ‘Okay, let’s do it.’  This was five minutes before the show was going to start – I just came straight from work and got there as quick as I could.

“The next thing was deciding which song I’d play in with, and Johnny recommended Working for a Living.  Huey, said, ‘I’ll play the first two bars on the harmonica, and right after that I’m going to bring the band in.  You take the second two bars.’  I’d never practiced the song, but I’d heard it on the radio.  Well, Huey brought the band way down and low, because I’m playing a string instrument and it’s better from an acoustic standpoint to do it that way.  And it just worked out.  I jumped right in there and played an acoustic solo, and it sounded like we’d been practicing it for years.  Funny thing is, I was still wearing my U.P.S. uniform [laughs].”

Staats has also opened up for good friend and country music star Brad Paisley.

“That was on Mountain Stage,” he says.  “I love Brad to death, he’s a great friend.  It was me and Robert Shafer, and it was just a two-piece band; me on mandolin and Robert on guitar.  It was an awesome experience – when we finished, we received a really long ovation.  I couldn’t believe it.  Everybody was into what we were doing onstage, so it was a thrill just to be up there.

“Brad Paisley is the real deal.  He’s a great guitar player and an even better person.  I’ll never forget, Brad brought his father to the show, and brought him off the bus to come in and hear me play.  I thought that was pretty nice.”

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“Brad Paisley is the real deal.  He’s a great guitar player and an even better person.  I’ll never forget, Brad brought his father to the show, and brought him off the bus to come in and hear me play.” – Johnny Staats

 

Shortly after the release of Time Moves On, Staats received a call from the International Bluegrass Music Association.  The request:  A live performance at the annual awards show.

Staats:  “Funny how it happened.  When we decided to cut the CD, we knew we didn’t want a lot of expense associated with it.  So we made it ourselves in the front room of a house in Ohio, doing it the old way, and the next thing I knew, the IBMA had a copy and was requesting that we play at the awards show in Raleigh, North Carolina.

“It was a pretty big deal.  They wanted us to showcase the CD at the awards show, and only twelve bands in the country are chosen to perform.  I knew right then I had to figure out a way to get down there.  So I called my boss and told him that I needed to switch my vacation [laughs].  We played three different times.  The crowd was on their feet – I think they liked our high-energy style.

“We really had a great time down there.  It gave me a chance to renew friendships with some of the old pickers and bluegrassers that I hadn’t seen in a while.  Some of them would ask where I’ve been, and I would just tell them that I’ve been working.  I’ve never ran from hard work – that’s something that my dad taught me.  And you know, there are a lot of people, if they could play an instrument the way that I do, they wouldn’t be lifting packages every day and risking injuries to their fingers.  But that’s not me.  I like to work.”

Today, Johnny Staats and the Delivery Boys stay busy – in more ways than one.  Like Staats, the boys in the band all have day jobs.

 

Johnny Staats onstage

Johnny Staats onstage

 

“We push each other musically,” Staats says.  “We have Ray Cossin on fiddle – he’s only eighteen years old.  His parents starting bringing him to me for fiddle lessons when we was twelve.  He’s gifted.  I’d show him a song and he’d learn it before he left.  Before long he was learning two or three songs every time he’d come over.  He got so good that I hired him into the band.

“We have Butch Osborne on the banjo – I’ve been playing with Butch for twenty-five years.  He’s a concrete truck driver.  Davey Vaughn is the guitar player.  He’s a surveyor for the State of West Virginia.  His brother, Dan Vaughn, is a preacher.”

Staats and his band have plenty on their plates these days – requests come in a steady stream – and he doesn’t have any regrets about choosing the safer route with U.P.S., no pun intended.

 

Johnny Staats and the author, Michael D. McClellan. Photograph by Melanie A. McClellan (11/24/2013)

Johnny Staats and the author, Michael D. McClellan. Photograph by Melanie A. McClellan (11/24/2013)

 

“We have total freedom.  Like I told the boys, we can put out anything we want.  We can play wherever we want, whenever we want.  We can satisfy ourselves, and hopefully the public will like it.  We don’t have to make record companies happy, and we don’t have to go through the grind of touring to sell a record.  We just need to show up at a gig and play our music and love it.”

And that, in a nutshell, is the essence of Johnny Staats:  An artist unencumbered by the corporate side of the music world; a mandolin-playing genius who has earned the respect and admiration of some of the biggest names in the business; and, above all else, a family man content to put in that honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay, while the rest of us watch him produce preposterously brilliant music in his spare time, as if it were as natural to him as the act of breathing.

 

Editor’s Note:  Be sure to check out the official Johnny Staats website at:  http://www.johnnystaats.com/